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UPDATED WITH ACTUAL PHOTOS AT THE BOTTOM!

UPDATE 2 - New Photo from Tangent Design showing the relative size.


Thanks to Tangent Designs for letting me introduce this to you guys. I saw the prototype at NAB this past April as of today, Tangent introduces the new Element Control Surface. As you can see, it’s a very sweet modular design that feels like finely honed steel or aluminum. Very beautiful design. These are the final 3D renderings just prior to production.











As you can see, very beautiful and modular in design and according to Tangent, you can outfit this unit any way you please. As long as the software host supports it, you'll be able to add extra panels of knobs, buttons and trackballs.

I'll write a full review once I receive a production model for testing. Coupled with today's announcement from Adobe about purchasing IRIDAS, these are exciting times!

UPDATE: Big thanks to Andy and Chris at Tangent Design for sharing some actual photos of the production unit with me. Enjoy!















UPDATE 2: The marketing photos make this thing look much larger than it really is. Chris and Andy just sent me a snapshot of the unit on the IBC Show Floor that really gives you a perspective on the relative size. Note the Apple Mini Keyboard and iMac in the photo. Remember, when they showed me the prototype in April, it all fit in a backpack. So it's a really nice small, modular footprint.


















Posted by: walter biscardi on Sep 8, 2011 at 6:54:45 amComments (20) Color Grade, Davinci Resolve

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Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by Aseneth Miquiabas
Hi there,

I jsut wanna ask' who's the distributor of tangent element? I am looking for TANGENT DEVICES Element-Tk Trackerball TD-Element-Tk.

Thanks.
Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by David L
Tangent, what is the possibility of surround sound panning mapping to the joy ball in the jog shuttle?

Re: Blog: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by Jon Wright
Hi there,

Sorry if this is a silly question that can only generate a speculative answer, but what do you think the chances of this working in conjunction with a wave panel are?

I guess the idea is that the Element range is modular to allow a bigger or smaller Element setup (not to bolt on to other ranges), but it might be quite cool to be able to add 12 buttons/12 knobs to a wave panel setup...

Just a thought...


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by walter biscardi
From what I'm told, the Wave and Element work on two completely different protocols. That's why the Resolve supports the Wave right now but not the Element.

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Re: @Jon Wright
by Jon Wright
I thought as much... oh well! Thanks for the reply.
Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by John Sackey
I don't think it's official but I was told to expect 3-3.5k US as a price point for the base set of 4 at IBC, no info on individual pricing. Also the chat on the DaVinci stand was that they're going to support it.

@John Sackey
by walter biscardi
Yep, the pricing will fall into the $3,000 to $3,500 price range for the base set of four panels. Final pricing to be announced soon.

We're going to be having one of those panels here in Atlanta as soon as they are available. Can't wait to see the final production model, the prototype was just stunning.

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by John Sackey
I played with it on Color and was really impressed, much more of a tactile experience than the Wave and a fantastic build quality for that price point (or higher). I was also told they're talking to 'software partners' to open up grading apps to their Tube software so we can start custom mapping all of their panels in software that doesn't currently allow it.

Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by walter biscardi
Just updated the Blog with an actual photo from the IBC show floor, courtesy of Andy and Chris, showing the relative size of the unit. Scroll to the bottom of the original blog post.

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Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by walter biscardi
$3,000 - $3,500 for a four panel set.

http://www.biscardicreative.com/blog/2011/08/tangent-introducing-the-elemen...

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Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by Marco Solorio
Oh this looks sweet, Wally! This definitely looks like the perfect answer to the MC Color and Tangent Wave compromises.

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Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by Sam Cole
[Marco Solorio] "This definitely looks like the perfect answer to the MC Color and Tangent Wave compromises."

. . . . providing you have the desk space .....

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Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by Marco Solorio
Oh I've got the desk space primed and ready!

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Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by walter biscardi
Sam the entire unit is modular so you can configure it however you want. It doesn't have to be one large unit, you can move the pieces around.

Our Anthro console units can hold the full Davinci Resolve panels on the oversized keyboard shelf so we have more than enough room for these. As I mentioned in my original article before they revealed them, the prototype fit into a backback so this unit can travel very easily. It's very lightweight.

You should be able to figure out how to configure this unit for pretty much any desk.

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Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by Robbie Carman
Guys I've gotten my hands on the element here at IBC I tested it for about 30min and walked away really impressed. The panel feels way way more solid than the wave. The feel of the rings, joy balls, and knobs is really outstanding with a lot of drag and a non plastic type feel. Other features I loved were the OLED screens - really nice and sharp and how the panels link together with metal latches

This thing is tiny its only about 8in deep and probably about 4-5in at its highest point with the display.

The only thing I didn't like was that if you get all four panels you have 4 separate USB cables but a hub can make this easy but in my case where all of are computers are in a machine room and use a CAT5>USB extender I've had issues with placing a hub in front of that but your milage may vary.

While its more expensive (all panels) then the WAVE and MC COLOR or MC COLOR + MC Transport I think it hits a nice sweet spot, especially when compared with surfaces like the JL Cooper I would get the full compliment of the element panels or if your budget you can build a setup in a modular way.

I think Tangent hit a home run with the Element

Here are some photos

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Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by walter biscardi
Yeah, we've run into issues with our Gefen Cat5 Extenders here too, but here's a neat workaround to that if you have a Dell Monitor. Run your USB devices to the Hub but then connect your Hub to the Dell monitor. The monitor provides any extra power needed and the Cat5 extender only sees one USB device. It works quite well here.

I had suggested to Tangent that they put two USB ports on the units so you could loop them through one another, but I guess that wasn't possible.

I'm really looking forward to getting the set of panels in the room!

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Re: Blog: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by illya laney
Awesome! Can't freaking wait to get my hands on one of those.

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Re: Introducing Tangent Design's Element Control Surface
by walter biscardi
Thanks to Andy and Chris at Tangent Design I've updated the blog with actual photos at the bottom. Super sweet and it's so great to see the actual production model now. Can't wait to play with it!

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Credits include multiple Emmys, Tellys, Aurora and CableAce Awards.

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