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WATCH YOUR OUTPUTS

As you output your project to tape, or to DVD...whatever. Or before you encode it for the web or DVD...watch it all the way through. Even if you have seen it three dozen times, it would be very wise to watch your project before you do your final output, or an output that is going out to the network.

Why?

Well...one of the other editors here came to me with a big issue...one that I have never seen nor heard of before.

Last Friday he finished cutting his show...strung all the segments together, checked everything before the final render, then rendered. He did a quick glance through and things looked fine. He started the output (DVD-output to DVD Recorder via a Kona 3) then left. The assistants stopped the output when it was done, duplicated the DVD and sent it off to the network.

Come Monday...today...the editor in and finds that the network has complained that there were three black holes in the show. The editor goes to those spots and yup, there is nothing there but black. All three are stills (tiffs) with basic moves on them. When he matches frame, he sees the still, but there is black on the timeline. He is stumped, and comes to me to see what is going on.

I look at this and must admit that I too was stumped. I did a lot of fiddling...Made sure that the Canvas was set to RGB and not Alpha, but that wouldn't be it because we saw everything else. The scale was right, opacity was 100%. I fiddled with that and BOOM, the clip appeared. Hmmm...I moved it back to 100% and it was still there...but with the typical light green render bar above it. Another hmmm.

I went to another one of the clips and de-activated it (control-b) then activated it again (control-b). Boom...the picture came online. It was a bad render...all three somehow rendered out black, and I haven't a clue why. Re-rendered and all was well.

I bring this up to illustrate a point. The point is that you should watch your show as it outputs...so that you can catch stuff like this before it goes out and you end up with egg on your face.

I too was doing an output on Friday, and I too had a couple issues. About 20 min into a 45 min output I spotted a black hole that I forgot to add two stills into. I fixed that and started the output again. 24 min into the output and I encountered a clip where the filter hadn't rendered properly. I adjusted it, and then started the output again. This was going to DVD so there was no starting where I left off. Third time...DARN IT. 36 min in and there was a small 2 second hole of nothing where I did a pull up but forgot to close the gap. Fixed it and then started again. FINALLY the output was done and clean...at 2:30 AM.

I picked up this habit of watching my outputs when I too did what the other editor did...sent something out that had a couple trouble spots. I didn't watch the output, so I missed them. HUGE bro-ha ha from the network, and quite a chewing out by the post supervisor and producer. So I no longer just let things go...I watch. No matter how many times I have seen it and how boring it might be, I watch my outputs until they are done.

What does the above image have to do with all of this? Well, this is the subway station at Hollywood Highland at 2:45AM...when I realized that the subway stopped running and I needed to ride my bike ALL they way home.

EDIT: My buddy Tom has seen the exact same issue a couple years ago, as he posted here on the Cow


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Shane

You have elucidated something we all face - after working on a project for days/weeks/months - sometimes it is unbearable to watch it all the way through yet again. Even on shows that came out great, you sometimes have to force yourself to watch it all the way through.

Nearly everything I work on is not mastered to tape, but rendered out to a DVD or other format, so watching it before rendering, and watching the rendered file, and the burned DVD is a triple whammy.

On any timeline, I check each transition and rendered effects, and use the Page Down key to check every edit point - depending upon the content, sometimes this is all - sometimes not.

A somewhat related anecdote - not really the same thing, but you got me thinking: 

Journey with me back to 1995 - I was finishing an edit the night before 4th of July weekend - really wanted to go home, but the thing had to get done.  I don't recall exactly what happened, but for some reason I executed an edit as assemble, instead of insert. It was only after the record heads engaged that I realized my error. I was so mad I kicked a hole in the wall.

This being the pre-digital era, the only solution was to assemble edit the first part of the master to a submaster, fix the hole created by the bad edit,then assemble edit the 2nd half of the program, then repair the soundtrack (editing on 1", we would build the soundtrack (narration, music) on a Betacam tape, then dub this to Ch.2 on the pre-striped 1" tape, then use Ch.1 for nat sound during the edit).

Thank goodness it is more difficult to make such errors in a NLE system, but I'm trying to illustrate the point of paying attention to your edits, and remembering that the longer you work on something, and the later at night it gets, you can miss things. 


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