The following is a republished blog entry from my own company website.
A project for Ticketservice Uitburo was our first experience shooting DVCProHD for greenscreen material, with the Panasonic HVX-200 - since the budget didn't allow for HDCAM or film. What sets this camera apart is that is shoots HD on P2 memorycards, not tape. As a result we could immediately copy the data to a computer and start working. No need to have tapes transferred to files, or send film to a lab. The immediate availability of the material is one of the biggest advantages of this type of camera. In real life there were a couple of hurdles to take though.
But when we were asked to do something similar for a music video for the new boy-girl-band XYP, we decided to stick with this workflow. The postproduction schedule was very tight so we couldn't afford to lose time sending tapes out to be converted to files. Although there are definitely limitations to the HVX-200 and the DVCProHD codec (1080p isn't really 1080p and the chroma resolution is less than ideal for keying purposes), for these projects it has worked out very well - especially since the elements were mostly scaled down to SD which compensated for a lot of the compression.
But more importantly, it was a preview of times to come. With tape being on its way out, and data-centric cameras (cameras that record files to disk instead of video to tape) on the rise it looks like the whole camera acquisition landscape is about to be shaken, not stirred. There are already a couple of productions doing tape-less workflows. David Fincher has shot Zodiac direct-to-disk - using the Viper.
Apart from the top-range IT based cameras such as the Thomson Viper, the Arri D20 and the Dalsa Origin there's two new kids on the block. The Silicon Imaging SI2K, and RED One. The SI2K will shoot 2k (2048x1152 in this case) and RED One will shoot 4,5k. And both will use a more efficient and scalable compression technology than DVCProHD or HDCAM - so the images will look dramatically better than anything in their price range.
As always, there's pros and cons to an all-digital tapeless pipeline.
Pro...
- Immediate availability of the material means you could start rough cuts , or do quick and dirty composites right on the set.
- At the acquisition stage tapeless digital is lower cost than film, and HD tape, if we're not counting HDV (which I'm ruling out for high-end work) - since no lab or tape-devices are needed. Just connect the digital magazine to a workstation and copy files.
Con...
- This development is still immature. There's no standardized workflow so it means a little bit of pioneering. RED has stated over and again that smooth workflow is as important as a working camera, so at least it is being taken seriously and to be honest I am pretty confident that this will work out.
- Archival. With film your negative is your archive and if stored appropriately, will last decades, maybe centuries. And with digital video tape you have a similar camera-based archive. With digital magazines you copy to some kind of harddisk array and re-use them. Which means for backup and archival extra steps need to be taken. And all of a sudden the cost advantage may look slightly different.
And one more pro...
- To put that last 'con' into perspective: IT based archival media are rapidly increasing in capacity and decreasing in cost. Which can't be said of film.
Based on the generally positive experience with data-centric workflows and the very promising previews of the RED One camera, I have made reservations for a RED One camera (#368) - which will ship before summer 2007. And it seems I'm not alone. RED has stated that amongst their reservation holders are the likes of David Fincher, Peter Jackson and James Cameron. I'm sure I'll write more on this subject as soon as there's more to say.
With digital magazines you
With digital magazines you copy to some kind of harddisk array and re-use them. Which means for backup and archival extra steps need to be taken. And all of a sudden the cost advantage may look slightly different.
And herein lies the rub. DVD's are slowly getting to the point of 40GB and beyond, but I've done research to see that hard drives themselves sitting on a shelf can deteriorate if not used from time to time. And as we all know, they WILL fail at some point. So what format do we use for long, long term (5 years or more) to ensure your footage will still be useable when the time comes? That's the one question I've not seen a definitive answer to yet.
And in the case of a broadcast show, like "Good Eats," the network requires that all raw footage be saved. Right now I'm looking at 42 raw tapes (35 minutes each) which represents just 7 of the 23 episodes shot in 2006. So that would be about 126 total tapes shot in 2006, which is 73 hours of material that needs to be archived, not counting the graphics and animations. Multiply that by 11 seasons (and counting) and you have a tremendous archival issue.
I'm all for shooting tapeless, it's the long term archiving and retrieval that I have not seen a good answer to.
Walter
JVC GY250U , Discovery Approved list! Also use HD-100
TJ Walkup
Well I have been using this camera with the hard drive for the past year and the only problems I have ever run into were operator error. Pictures are great, workflow is amazing, like nothing else. The clients are raving about it. Unless you have an extra 150,000. hanging around this is really the only choice for a Pro/Independent. With this I am able to record for Mac/PC/TR2 etc. One client wants AVI2 files...other clients want Quicktime HD and everyone can see the footage off of the hard drive in the field to preview. Also to make it really sweet for clients I bought a Lacie Rugged 250 and now we can have redundancy in the field. They love that. I tell them to bring their laptops with 1394 (PC) or a Mac with Final Studio 2 and Firewire 800 and we are really cooking! If they mark the good takes (every time you record with the drive in numbered succession) then in the edit they will pull only what they want of the drive...more often then not it will be 13 minutes after a day of shooting for transfer of the already captured footage to their hard drive. Or they can edit right on the HD-100 drive and save the file on their own drive as well as a copy on the HD-100. Fast ProHD in the field that is now on the Discovery Approved list! Some clients wont' use any one else.
Oh and you can shoot for the BBC too
TJ Walkup
All the frame rates make it flexible....the bomb!
And you invest in putting
And you invest in putting all your archives on a shelf and then in ten years there is no way to retrieve them because it's all nanotechnology and there are no tape or disk drives. Well, something like that.
This discussion has been going on for some time in the digital still photography world. The latest recomendation is to have your most valuable images burned to medium format slides. That's right. Positives.
We're all just hamsters spinning on a wheel...
Glad to hear!
Glad to hear (not in a mean way!) you guys are stumped on the archiving process too. I do post work on commercials. We crank out hundreds of 30 and 60 second spots per year and have gone with all digital delivery in house. Tape is being eradicated. Our entire archive currently rests in the hands of our IT dept. It's all on a network drive (with no backup!!!) I am desperately looking for a cost efficient, safe and reliable alternative. I am about to start burning DVDs for safety. If you discover any brilliant solutions, I'd love to hear it!
Chris Heuer
freefallfx@verizon.net
Answer is HDV
get a JVC HDV 50U deck and lay off to pro tape. They are small, cost effective and readily available for years to come. apparently tape is not gone.