Hi all. We're entering the wonderful world of Blu-Ray authoring and with it, we've discovered that not all Blu-Ray DVD Players are created equal. To author our discs, we have to use BD-R media, as in Blu Ray Disc Recordable. We're using Sony Discs and to my surprise, my $999 Sony Blu Ray player does NOT support BD-R.
Worst part about it is we purchased this machine two months ago, it's been used a total of one hour, and Best Buy will not let me exchange it for a machine that does support BD-R. I even said I don't care about the 15% restocking fee, I just wanted to purchase the correct machine.
So now we have to go out and purchase a new Blu Ray machine while also trying to sell off this machine. So if you plan to start doing any Blu Ray authoring anytime soon, be sure to verify that the machine supports BD-R so you'll be able to play back whatever it is you burn in-house.
Funny I haven't been able to find a Sony model yet that does, but Samsung has one for only $599. Heading down to Fry's tonight to pick it up.
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You've been Sony-ed! Its
You've been Sony-ed!
Its happened to all of us who use Sony... But, what can you do? They do have the market pretty well cornered when it come to the whole broadcast experience.
And Best Buy'd
You've been Sony-ed!
Yeah it's really silly because we're using Sony BD-R discs too. And after those nice things I said about Best Buy in the Apple thread earlier, I'm going to stay away from that store for the time being. At least we have a Fry's.
Does a PS3 support BD-R?
Does a PS3 support BD-R? They are cheap, and then you have a game system too.
PS3 more expensive
Does a PS3 support BD-R? They are cheap, and then you have a game system too.
Well, first off, I have a Wii which blows the doors off the PS3 as far as game play. Second, even with the $100 reduction in price, I was able to get a Samsung BluRay Player for less than the price of a Sony PS3.
Of course now if we could just get Adobe Encore to work correctly. It's so incredibly buggy we're literally authoring the disc in Encore, saving off a ISO file, then I had to purchase Toast 8 to actually burn the Blu Ray disc. Encore keeps crashing everytime it tries to burn.
I always make an ISO
Burning directly out of Encore never works for me. We have gotten into the habit of making an ISO file, and then burning using Nero.
Granted, I have never gotten Encore 2.0 to work. Trying to make an ISO or any other version of a project or disc crashes the program. Maybe it's my computer, dunno.
Mike Cohen
tried the ISO
Burning directly out of Encore never works for me. We have gotten into the habit of making an ISO file, and then burning using Nero.
We tried that using Toast on the Mac. The result was flat out awful and completely unusable.
Sony has an update
Well lo and behold the folks at Adobe passed on to us that Sony has an update on their website to allow the player to play BD-R discs. And it actually works!
Now if they can just figure out how to make Encore actually burn the discs for us, I'll be an extremely happy camper. The Toast thing just ain't working out all that well.
AACS
The problem you are experiencing is likely not the fault of Encore, Toast or any other consumer level Blu-ray authoring program, but rather the mandatory copy protection, AACS.
I've been working with Scenarist HDMV for the last year now and we've had the same problem at first. In order to get a BD-R to play on Set Top player, it, like all other Blu-ray discs at this moment, MUST have AACS copy protection to play.
The only REAL way to put AASC on a BD disc is to send it off for mastering, which is not cheap!
The more recent firmware updates for some players (PS3 excluded) are removing this restriction, so hopefully the problem will go away by the time BD becomes mainstream (which is still quite a few years away, in my opinion).
Sony players are terribly picky about copy protection, but the latest Panasonic and Samsung players do not have the problem. Though there is now way to ask your client to get a specific player, and it seems that the PS3 is the most popular BD player at the moment.
The problem you are
The problem you are experiencing is likely not the fault of Encore, Toast or any other consumer level Blu-ray authoring program, but rather the mandatory copy protection, AACS. I've been working with Scenarist HDMV for the last year now and we've had the same problem at first. In order to get a BD-R to play on Set Top player, it, like all other Blu-ray discs at this moment, MUST have AACS copy protection to play.
If you read my update, Sony released a firmware update so it recognizes BD-R's now and we've been able to burn / play back three discs perfectly fine now. So AACS copy protection is not a requirement any longer at least on the Sony as I know it cannot be applied using Encore. AACS protection requires a license with a key and can only be applied at a commercial replication house.
The big issue we're having right now is Encore will not burn discs at all on our Mac. Also their Encoder is flat out terrible so the workflow right now is Compress in Compressor, Author in Encore, Burn using Toast. We get a very very nice BluRay disc using this method. But I would prefer to stay in one app like we were expecting.