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Blu-ray and the Big Bag of Hurt; or, why no Blu-ray for me...again

When Steve Jobs called Blu-ray a big bag of hurt, he was being asked why the new MacBooks have no Blu-ray drives. His answer spoke to the cost of licensing the hardware. When his lieutenant Phil Schiller chimed in, HE was speaking about Blu-ray content when he said that the iTunes Store and Apple TV was the right way to deliver HD.


Steve knows how much a Blu-ray drive costs to license, so I'll take his word for it. I won't bust Phil too badly as an individual, because lordy knows he's not the only one to think that Blu-ray's launch will be impeded, if not altogether scrubbed, by digital downloads. I just think that downloads aren't the big story for HD delivery right now. I think the same thing that will prevent Blu-ray's speedy adoption is the same thing standing in the way of HD downloads catching on as quickly as they might.


Yes, I said "thing," not "things." There are plenty of market and technology forces standing in the way for the world at large worth talking about later, but for me, for now, there's only one obstacle standing in the way of me caring about Blu-ray or broadband delivery: my HD DVR.


Before the DVR, I was an early adopter of a whole lot of things. My first CD player cost $500 – a top loader! -- and that was one of the CHEAP ones. Like Blu-ray, the first sales were to "philes," in this case audiophiles. You could mostly only buy them in the kind of stores that sold receivers and amplifiers as separate components. Mine came from a store in Harvard Square, across from Needle in a Haystack, an entire store devoted to nothing buy phonograph needles. It wasn't a huge store, but I'm not kidding – NOTHING but needles. It was kind of eerie.


And back in 1983, $500 was real money.


I was also an early adopter of Laser Disk, which introduced a number of critical technologies to wide-ish scale (only 1% of the VHS market, but still) home use: widescreen aspect ratios, random access chapters, frame-by-frame viewing, surround-sound encoding including Dolby and THX, digital audio tracks that allowed things like commentaries and separate language tracks, director's cuts, significant bonus features, significant picture remastering, and of course, Disney picture disks.


(Without getting all dewy eyed about how much better a laserdisk in a good player looks and sounds than most DVDs, I'll simply observe that no DVD will ever be as neato as a Disney picture disk.)


There were related things I adopted early, including hand-made custom subwoofer cables, front-projection TV (had one of them big 3 CRT gun jobbies), and yep, DVR. That deserves a couple of blog entries by itself, and I'll get to 'em....but the bottom line very quickly became that there wasn't much point to watching TV without a DVR, and there was no way on green earth that we were even going to THINK about adopting HD until there was an HD DVD.


Fortunately, DirecTV came to the rescue with DirecTiVo, a co-branded box that did exactly what it sounds like it did: for $1000, plus $10/month for HD programming. Eek. A little painful, but hey, it was HD, the way we wanted, so we took a deep breath, did without heat that winter, and got what we wanted.


(I say "we" - my wife is every step along the way with all this. We loves us some HD.)


This means two things. One is that the absolutely very, very last thing that would keep my from adopting Blu-ray. I have the rest of my HD rig loaded for bear. I'm not holding my breath for players to drop below the "magical" $200 barrier.


More important for Blu-ray in our lives is that we've been watching HD movies since 2004. I'm getting more every week for the exact same price as SD cable, and using the DVR to watch when I want.


(Not at all a big deal, but something that I notice when I watch DVDs – I prefer the features and responsiveness of my DVR. I don't need chapter marks as much as I do to hop back a few seconds to hear something I missed. One button on the DVR, a pain on the DVD.)


I know there's going to be a lot more Blu-ray disks very quickly, but right now on my DVR, waiting for me to watch a couple more times before I move along are two of my favorites: Office Space and Lawrence of Arabia, neither of which is on Blu-ray. (If I was a better person, I might have put Lawrence of Arabia BEFORE Office Space. So I probably shouldn't mention South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut – should I?) I have no doubt they'll come to Blu-ray, but not before I'll have watched them a dozen times or more in HD.


The big Blu-ray news this month is James Bond. Well, I've seen all the ones I like – including my favorite, Casino Royale with Daniel Craig -- in HD plenty of times. (Daniel Craig is the best Bond by a longer distance than we have yet found a way to measure.) It's the highest-selling Blu-ray disk to date, although The Dark Knight debuts Tuesday and could easily surpass Casino Royale in its first week. I'll see it plenty of times, on my time, when it comes to my HD DVR for free in a few more months.



I've got precisely zero use for the Lord of the Rings books. I haven't gotten past the first dozen pages – sorry, I've tried, but I just can't. I laughed – hard – at anyone in my high school who read them. This put me off seeing the movies longer than I should have waited. My bad. As much as I came to love the movies in the theater (barring the multiple endings of the third), I place the deluxe editions of the DVDs – once you've included 3 commentaries and the two disks of documentaries) among the great achievements in the history of human artistic endeavor. I'm glad to be alive at the time they were released. (Yeah, really.) Not coming to Blu-ray before 2010 says Mr. Jackson. I'll have been seeing them in HD for maybe 5 years at that point. Will the extras that make the deluxe editions such a wonder all be remade as HD? Highly unlikely I think, and I watch those as often as I watch the movies.


Of course Peter will probably find enough extra goodies laying around to make the Blu-ray edition worth my while...but I'm having a hard time coming up with any reason to buy a Blu-ray player before then. Not that I'll necessarily do it then. But I'm waiting something to push me over the edge. Any suggestions? Because until you persuade me otherwise, I'm keeping Blu-ray in my big bag of ho-hum.




Posted by: Tim Wilson on Nov 25, 2008 at 9:20:40 am Comments (7) dvd, hd, movies, entertainment, technology, adobe, bluray, hd dvd

Comments:
Our clients are clammering
by Tom Daigon on Nov 30, 2008
Our clients are clammering for HD they can hold in their hands. We do long and short form video that folks want to leave the session with ready for quick review and approval. They want to be able to collect and review this work now and in the future. High end (commercials) and low end (weddings) want a tangible product they can display with ease and doesnt just exist in the ether. Shame on Sony after winning the tech battle with HD DVD for stopping the wheels of progressive for all the video professionals across the wolrd!
H.264 tips...and VC-1...and Flash....
by Tim Wilson on Nov 25, 2008

The key with H.264 is to keep the data low....REAL low. It might not even look right to your eyes, but clients will dig it. Try it as an experiment, rather than an official review -- "How does this look to you?" 

More important, it has to be saved as an MOV file and not M4V. M4V is almost always a problem. But we use H.264 on our DVDs and have had single digits of complaints out of many thousands of units, to people all over the world on all kinds of computers. But we're very careful to keep the data rate around 500 Mbps or so.

Tips include mono audio, 44.1 at 16 bits, and 15 fps. You'll be surprised how well this works. Go up to 24 fps if you can't stand it...but you'll be increasing your data rate pretty significantly. Ditto with stereo -- avoid it if it all possible, and don't even think about 48. This is dandy for review, and as I said, fine for any distribution that isn't actually Blu-ray.

(And if you really, really need Blu-ray authoring --as opposed to putting a copy of a movie on a disk -- don't be a hero. Pay somebody to do it for you. It'll cost less in the long run.)

Agreed though that QuickTime is becoming less and less useful. On Windows, frequently not useful at all. Nearly NEVER useful for M4V. I no longer even try on my windows machines.

FWIW, I find that VC-1 looks dramatically better at lower data rates/higher compression. (Both H.264 and VC-1 look great at higher data rates/lower compression.) The downside is that many Macs don't have the codec installed, but very useful indeed for clients using Windows.

 I also like Flash. Encoding with earlier versions could be touchy for video, but from Flash 8 forward, it looks great. You can often get away with higher res audio...but I just don't find it necessary. The client's computer will multiplex just fine, even with really expensive speakers.

H264...yeah
by Jeremy Garchow on Nov 25, 2008

The problem we have been finding with h264 is that some people with company laptops CANNOT read Quicktime files very well if at all, let alone HD sizes/frame rates.  Sad but true.  The nice thing about something like a BluRay player is that is it standardized (sorta).  I guess all the world needs to buy a Mac.  If our clients do have Macs, then encoding h264 is a no-brainer.

 

Encoding wmvs on a Mac is difficult.  The movies I make are constantly out of sync. 

Don't need Blu-ray for client review
by Tim Wilson on Nov 25, 2008

There's a much, much better way to send HD material for client review: good ol' H.264 (aka QuickTime) and VC-1 (aka Windows Media). Both have been working great long before either optical disk format was available. I can review 720 on my laptop and 1920 on my desktop without a Blu-ray player.

By the way, I didn't mean to say that iTunes isn't a great way to get HD content. It is. I'll be discussing in another post though that new DRM restrictions prevent the HD movies and TV shows that you legally bought through iTunes can't be played to an external monitor from your new MacBook and MacBook Pro except with very specific hardware -- which most definitely does NOT include your Cinema Display! 

 Like I said, another post. :-)

 In the meantime, every problem that Blu-ray presents can be solved better WITHOUT Blu-ray, even in the context of professional video production, and certainly as you both note Ron and Jeremy for consumption.

Tim, you left out one of the most annoying reasons...
by Ron Lindeboom on Nov 25, 2008

Kathlyn and I recently bought a Blu-ray player and have been about ready to heave it out a window sometimes. Why? It freezes during playback quite regularly -- it doesn't matter the movie, it happens to about half of them. The other night we were watching WALL-E and about 10 minutes from the end, it freezes. Brain-lock. Won't let you do anything. Just sits there like Frank Zappa's notorious Idiot Bastard Child that he wrote about so long ago. What brand is it? It is a Sony, not a Gold Star or some econo-brand that you would expect to have issues.

Considering that our SD player is an upconverting progressive scan HDMI player that sends out a signal that looks often almost as good as our Blu-ray player's image, I have yet to see all the excitement for Blu-ray that some espouse.

I agree with Mark Raudonis that there are professional reasons for having one but as a consumer, I find the format far from a Gold Star. (Sorry, I couldn't pass up the joke.)

Best regards,

Ron Lindeboom

XBox 360, now streaming videos on demand
by Jeremy Garchow on Nov 25, 2008

Fired up my Xbox 360 last night and got a warning about an update (yes, I play video games...there are worse vices!).  I updated the 'New Xbox Experience' and lo and behold there's a streaming service free from Netflix, with some of them in HD.  I didn't have a chance to fully give it a once over, but I did see a few movies in the queue and checked them out briefly.  The picture quality could be a bit better, but you really can't beat the service if you're a Netflix subscriber.  It appears that there are a couple of boxes that will do this (including some BluRay players, and your Tivo DVR).

 http://www.netflix.com/NetflixReadyDevicesList?lnkce=nrd-l&trkid=425738&lnkctr=nrd-l-m

 

The problem with that for us content creators, is that the service is closed, meaning we can't send HD preview copies via Netflix.  So, we are still sitting and waiting.  I agree, BluRay is not in our sites at this point either. 

 

 

Yes, yes, yes... for
by Mark Raudonis on Nov 22, 2008
Yes, yes, yes... for personal use. I agree with you completely. But this is a PROFESSIONAL forum, and as such we have some unique, specific needs. As far as I'm concerned, Blu ray can't arrive soon enough. Many people creating HD programs need to send HD discs for client review and approval. Of course this can be done in many different ways besides discs... but there still remains a need and desire for the same kind of functionality we now use SD DVD's for in the HD realm. Blu-ray promises that, but in practice it's a major pain in the patootie! Don't even get me started on compatibility of players issues. I want my BLURAY, and I want TODAY. (Actually, I've already got it. I want EVERYBODY to have it, just like they have a SD DVD player) Mark Raudonis
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